Originally Posted by noglider

Sorry, but I'm not that much of a fan. They're great looking and well thought out. They're truly nice, but how many touring miles do we put on per year? I haven't taken an overnight bike trip since 1983, though I hope to get back into it this summer.

Cyclo-cross and sport-touring bikes are just a bit shorter and lighter. They don't feel heavy when they're not laden. Full touring bikes do, so if I do end up touring, I'll probably do it on a cyclo-cross bike. I've determined that the chainstays are long enough to prevent heel-scrape.