[QUOTE=Seattle Forrest;15252541]A friend of mine told me "You haven't lived 'til you've been to Hart's Pass." She's always been right with this sort of advice before.

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We've camped and hiked up there over the years. There was a walk in campground near the top of the road and a drive in on a spur road close to the PCT. Neither have water and you remove your own trash.

I have not been there is a few seasons so I am not current on this. Check out the local camping quides for current data. The gravel road was a good quality USFS road with a lot of uphill. OInly hairy spot was coming round the nose of the ridge with a long way down on one side. Excellent views in all directions in clear weather from the lookout.