Thanks! My current stem is a Nitto quill with a lot of lift left, so I can experiment with that (hmmm, brake cable was always too short, need longer now!).

All my other fits are based on that one becaused i synchronized them back then, and really none are great fits now. Maybe I should take the Mondonico (Terraferma is hard to transport right now) to a fitter and have it set up, then look at transferring fits.

I set this bike up based on a comparator bike that was comfy for two metrics on successive days, my longest rides yet. However, it was 2.5 years ago and I'm not in the shape I was in then. I feel stronger, but I might be heavier.

Ok, need to get in some road time, at least - that's a great idea, BD.