Originally Posted by
Mr. Beanz
Ahh you are correct. I missed the fact it's a 2009.
I was thinking we're still in 2010.
Ya mean, it's NOT 2010?!
Originally Posted by
aramis
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Usually the easiest negotiation tactic is ask them if they can do anything instead of making an offer first. If they come back with something reasonable.. then there you go. If it's close you can usually work from there.
That is the easiest thing, no doubt- but it doesn't work. YOU want to be the one in control of the situation; YOU are the one with the cash; YOU want to tell them what you are willing to pay, not "ask" what they're willing to do. If I'm selling something, and someone asks "Can you do any better"/"What can you do for me"- I MIGHT, at best knock $50 off the price. Someone comes and says "I'll give you $1300" for a $1700 item and waves cash in front of my face, I'll likely take it. The first guy would never get such a deal.
Originally Posted by
jerseyJim
I would put the lock and the helmet and the lights on the counter, take out the cash and and tell him I would buy all that stuff to go with the bike if he can give you the bike for $1250. Works out about the same. If he says no then thank him for considering the offer and leave. Then I would stop back in in a week or two to buy a tube or something and see if he brings it up after having some time to think it over.
$1250 is too much for that bike. It's the shop's own fault that they couldn't move it when it was current. Now it's 4 years old, and going down in value with every passing day. Unless it were a real high-end or collectible bike, the fact that it is new means nothing- it is 4 years old, and worth what any other 4 year old bike of the same model in good condition is worth.
The shop owners are probably bad business people to begin with- because if they had any sense, they would have blown that bike out within a year....so whether they'll have the sense to agree to a realistic price or not, remains to be seen- but I wouldn't over-pay for it, because of their stupidity. If I owned that shop, I'd be itching just to get rid of that thing. (Although, I'd likely take it off the floor and sell it on CL or Ebay or something- rather than letting the customers see that I have a bike I couldn't get rid of for FOUR years!).