Originally Posted by
pacificcyclist
Take a chill pill cyccocommute. You think you know it all, but unfortunately you don't. You seemed to downplay my 2x10 system and yet you had never toured on one nor accept that others who have it found it adequately. Personally, I'm not sure why are you so angry and dismissive of old cranks. It is a reference to what was then better accountability in the industry and where makers are proud to showcase their quality products. Sort of like full service airlines. These days, everything is on a per-charge basis with discount airlines. It's a reflection on today's economic reality. I'm not saying you have to spend $400 to $500 on a set of Rene Herse or T.A if you can find one, I'm just illustrating what happens if you have a set of good cranks. I also had a set of Shimano XT and Turbine Cranks and while they are good, they are not as true chain ring wise compared to my Sugino cranks. I measured. Am I anal about being a bit wobbly? Nope.
I may not know it
all but I do know a lot. And just because I may not know it
all doesn't mean that I know nothing.
I am not downplaying your 2x10 system...for your needs... but I am objecting to the statement that a 2x10 system is the same as a 3x10 system...or 3x9 or 3x anything. It is clearly not. All you have to do is the math to show that the 3x whatever system has more steps between the high and low gear of combination of cassette you care to use with 2 rings. You can use any system you want...I'll use what I want...but you cannot deny the facts. Sorry but you just can't.
As for new vs old cranks, the old ones aren't any better than the new ones. I've owned many, many, many cranks. I would no more go backwards to one of the old cranks then I would go backwards to friction shifting or a rigid mountain bike or a vintage touring bike. I find absolutely no problems with any new crank that I own when compared to the old stuff. I also find conspiracy theories about new equipment to be tiresome mostly because it is just not true.
As for the anger part, I tend to get testy when people call me a curmudgeon or a luddite or tell me what is best
for me or imply that a double is superior for everyone else except the person telling us that a double is just best for all. I don't make arguments of a personal nature. I do not attack your...nor anyone's...character. I address your ideas and I disagree with them. But I have never called you a luddite. You, on the other hand, have not been nearly as respectful. Disagree with my ideas as much as you like. I don't care and I welcome the discussion. I will even have passionate discussions with anyone on just about any subject. But I never...no, not ever...let my passions get such a grip on me that I start name calling. Please extend me the same courtesy. It is, after all, forum rules.