i trip out when i hear about people trying to get a super light mtb... why? are you also going to ride without water in the bottles? are you gonna ride super skinny light tires on it too? you could ride it naked and cut down a few pounds. i don't mean to be abrasive but it just does not make sense. weight-weenieism just barely makes sense for road bikes but for mtbs/hybrids that are gonna be ridden recreationally it is flat out bonkers