Originally Posted by GENESTARWIND

dear scrod i love my centurion, i love its lugs and its steel, Its feel and the semi tight geometry too . i love how it handles and how it feels. I want track ends and ease of chain tension. I cannot afford those wonderful custome lugged steel frames but ive looked at the kilo tt lugged and a few others but as ive googled and i have googled.

I came upon wearefactoryfive.come and asked you about in the past.
would factory fives http://www.wearefactoryfive.com/fram...ue-custom.html be to expensive for the quality they offer?
its lugged, its steel. its not something ill be buying SOON but just a thought. ive youve any ideas on lugged steel frames all recommendations are appreciated.
I understand this isnt a fancy shmancy frame.