Originally Posted by patentcad

I'm buying a Foil 20, MSRP for that bike is only $3800, comes with throw away wheels and Ultegra, I'm eBaying all that crap, which should bring $1000 or so, replacing the crank with a D.A. 9000 crank and the 9000 calipers. But it's hardly expensive compared to most D.A. bikes these days. I think the whole transaction will cost me a net of under $2k, all in once I sell the S2 frame and the D.A. parts off that and bring over the 10 speed Di2. It will be a nice bike. But the Ultegra 6700 stuff is great, looks great, works better, reasonably light. Best mechanical group I've ever shifted.

I'll get a second ptap wheel eventually. I'll be good for now. I do need new Zipp stickers for my rear wheel, those are rather trashed.

I don't know, you should be able to buy a Foil 20 for close to $3K, I'm paying $3400, but they're doing all kinds of stuff for me like building the bike and not charging me, selling all those parts on eBay individually, etc. That's a lot of work. It seems to me low 3's for that Foil 20 is a lot of value in a race bike. You pay a stupid premium to get the pricier HMX-Net frame, and the frame fork combo on that is only about 100 grams lighter than the HMF-Net carbon on the cheaper frame. I have HMF-Net on my Addict, and the bike rocks. That was also a great value when I got it in the $3K range with full Ultegra (which stayed on that bike).