I wrote Jude an email regarding alchemy hubs to see what she says. Otherwise, I think I will be going with the Chris kings in black. I'm not so sure about the pewter hub color with the Belgium Rim. Started thinking that if I'm going to spend this much on hubs, I dont want to deal with switching stickers and such. The Ride on my enve's were very nice and a better sound than what I experienced on the son plus H.