Originally Posted by bianchi10

I road the enve carbon 45's today. half of it was in the rain and i didn't feel that it was dangerous. I did have to make minor adjustments to brake in time. I think that if you aware of the precautions needed, carbon wheels will be just fine.

In short, Before coming into this process I had it all backwards. More than backwards, my expectations out of a wheel just couldn't happen. I wanted it ALL in one wheel and some of the things I wanted were contradicting. I wanted it UBER light but aero, durable and would last me a long time, stiff, brand name, look good, great hubs and all for as cheap as I could find it. Now that I have figured out a little more, i realize that I cant have it all and more important, some of the things I found to be most important were in fact not.

The H plus son with CK hubs was a great wheel. I loved every part except climbing. I still dont know why because I later found out that they weren't much heavier than my boyds I was using. Since I was doing it blind without any information and was asked not to research the wheels I would be testing I had to go strictly off of feel. When I rode them, they felt heavy. that was my perception. I think I guessedt they were around 1750g when in fact they were around 1580 or something. Rode the Velocity A23 next and it felt lighter even though it was a 32/32 spoke wheel and was only 40g lighter than the H plus sons. regardless, i felt they climbed better or easier than the H plus son.

Im going to go for the C2 rim with super sapim spokes. still dont know yet if I'm going to do a 24/24 or 24/28, but will go with a chris king r45 hub. (the sound seems to have grown on me with the enve set) The thing is i haven't test ridden this wheel in any kind of variation of spoke count or anything, but I have kept very good communication with my wheel builder. She has taken my feedback and has put together a suggestion of a build that she knows i will be happy with. We had long conversations about what I want out of a wheel, what I liked and didn't like about each set. She is very well aware that I'm looking for a lighter set but with my new experience am more open minded to having a set that isn't uber light because I have seen the performance of a well built set with good components. Through this process I have learned to trust her. She is an expert and i am not. She has taken note on what i want and has lead me down this road. The feedback i have received from members on the forum of those who have this wheelset have assured me that I am making a great choice.