Thanks for the info. I must have misunderstood Jude with the option of super Sapim spokes. I do not want to lose performance must to save weight. So if this is true, the super sapims will not be a choice anymore. I will be doing a 24f/28r.

The enve wheel, though sexy as hell and nothing short of amazing will not be an option anymore either. Done ALOT of thinking about it and I have come to the conclusion (thanks to many of you and some friends who talked me back to what is best for my situation) that they just are not a smart choice for me, for many reasons. I will be talking with jude tomorrow about making my order of the c2.