Originally Posted by
Campag4life
I will respond to you because of the outcry as you are a poster boy for the dissent here. Calling people names. A guy..or is it girl...that doesn't have a clue to either contribute or even assess where the OP ended up is casting aspersion. If you were smarter, you would see the irony...but you are not.
You can't help it and either can the others that piled on including the OP that come from the same dark place of ignorance. The reason for devisiveness is because we come from different walks. I know all the guys that piled on that live in their parent's basements are overwhelmed by their sense of inadequacy and hence their need to criticize. No surprise, those are the same people that have contributed absolutely NOTHING to the substance of this thread. The point of opinion and message boards such as this...is learning and getting to the truth. The way you get there many times involves debate...sometimes heated debate. Those that are incapable of engaging in technical discussion have to deride to feel a bit better about themselves. This sadly is a common dynamic on not just this board but others. Truth is guys like Robert and I probably shouldn't be here. We are speaking to a very small group that are like minded because of our training. Let's face it, overall knowledge base is very low here and largely comprised of the name callers because they aren't thoughtful.
A last note as many...again among the uniformed, don't understand why a thread degrades...or comment 'this always happens.' This occurs because the thread has run its course and has really come to its conclusion. The OP after much contemplation has decided on the best wheels for him. The only next step left is for him to have them built and come back and let us know how he likes them...whether or not to change the spokes or not.
The sidebar that ensued near the end of this thread about wheel building is interesting to those...again those whom mainly contributed to the substance of the thread. Those that are a bit more clueless found that distracting. I hope that makes sense. The reason the thread ultimately derailled is because the thread had run its course. On balance, aside from the division, it was a pretty good ride.
Anyway...that's an overview. A last note to the name callers...those that NEVER contribute any substance other than criticize others...even with your meager mentality...its just bike parts. It a hobby. In the grand scheme it means nothing...a distraction from our daily lives. It should be fun. For some of us...which includes many of the techs that actually contributed to this thread...that means seeking the truth. That is fun for us. For others and perhaps the majority, that isn't your definition of fun and hence the divide.
Robert, I suggest you don't post any more in this thread. I really enjoyed your comments and our discussion including with many others.
I'm out.
I will respond to this even though I am certain it wont do any good and you will reply with a comment that will try to defend yourself. I am not judging or accusing, but you have shown in this thread that you seem to be the type of person to never back down and just stand back with hands up and say...ok, fair enough.
"its just bike parts. It a hobby. In the grand scheme it means nothing...a distraction from our daily lives. It should be fun." I agree with this. It was fun until you "techs" derailed the thread into something YOU thought was fun, while us not so smart people sat here and had to use google definitions to try and piece together what you were possibly saying. If you or anyone else felt that the thread was coming to an end and run its course or no longer entertaining for you, then stay out of it. No need to change the entire direction of the thread just because you can longer focus on the baseline reason for the thread in the first place. If your tolerance to "suffer" is at its limit, then move the hell on. just because you are bored doesn't mean we are. And to be honest, I cant really recall what exactly you were helpful with. (pdedes)
Maybe you and pdiddy decided that this thread had no where else to go, but it remains obvious that there are several people, including myself that still have an interest to keep it going. At least Rpen was able to submit after realizing that it wasn't about trying to get me or anyone else to understand the facts and numbers. I would imagine most of us stupid folk would agree with me that the main reason this thread has come close to running its course was because of OT wheel building which had nothing to do with My intentions.
I'm sure you will come back and dissect every sentence and turn it around on me as if I'm the idiot, which I'm expecting. Just please respect the fact that I and several other people are still interested in carrying this thread for the on topic information. Hope that makes sense.