I think we can all agree that Machka has blatently neglected the biological and anatomical benefits that cutouts provide, but let's leave gender slander out of the thread. Anyway, el cheapo subject saddle is still awaiting glue, but all signs point to a successful first attempt. The saddle I've been using on my bike is relatively flat, with no curving up at the back (which I also feel uncomfortable). The test seat (Oval's 300 series) has the latter, which is why I used it to test. If the test fails, then I'm still left with a saddle that I deem as garbage anyway