Originally Posted by
krobinson103
Nope I'm saying I couldn't care less if its harder... I'll just cycle a little harder. Anyway its not my goal here to justify which tire is best, but to state that it really doesn't make that much of a difference. Its always been my feeling that a ride is 90% rider and 10% bike. I could be riding the best cf roadie in the world and a pro racer could wipe me off the map on a $100 walmart mtb.
If you like your tires good for you. If you are saying that they are a deal breaker for a longer rider... sorry can't agree. The difference between knobblies and slicks? Obvously. But slicks vs slicks? Don't think so.
It seems like you've invented your own argument here, just so you can post about it. I've done 300s on Marathons...I don't recommend it, but I finished inside the limit with no problems. Does this mean the Marathons are good tires?

If your goal is speed, buy the best tires available for your conditions. Saying 'just ride a little harder' is stupid. If you could ride harder, just do it on the nicer tires.
I'm surprised people still ride on 23s. Even the pros have finally given those up.