Originally Posted by cyclotoine

I have never really tired to get my vintage bikes lighter, but a nice classic 531 frame with full super record (reduced) group in a 60 cm with cinelli kit and run of the mill tubulars weights over 20 lbs for me. I am always amazed at the claimed vintage weight weenie build weights. My modern bike has a carbon fork and a super light steel frame with sram red and dura-ace and a sub 1400 g wheelset and it is 17lbs.. that people achieve 18 on a lugged steel frame and fork is amazing.

Of course the fact that I ride a 62cm frame doesn't help.