Originally Posted by chewybrian

I'm not here to persuade anyone to give up their car, either (it wouldn't help to preach to the choir, and ILTB, anyway). I'd just like to poke people into looking at the true cost, and considering that their budget might be freed to do more important things for them without a car, or with one instead of two. It's pretty much impossible, though. You might as well tell them to live in the woods and eat berries.