Ok heres an update

I removed the smallest chainring from the crank and slid it over the bb shell, then i was able to remove the middle chainring, so when i went to mount it in the backwards position, the ramps at 12 and 6 oclock were hitting the spot on the crank where it mounts, so after i ground them flat and mounted it, it doesnt sit right, and by that it has some left right runout, i still rode it around and it actually moves the chain without it skipping horribly like in the original positiin from being so worn, so im just going to save up the 25 bucks and get a new one off ebay