Originally Posted by
chasm54
An 80mm stem is quite extreme, I'd be tempted to buy a smaller frame than go with such a short stem.
And because it's unusual, were I a bike shop owner I probably wouldn't carry it as stock.
That's not the answer he's looking for. He wants you to agree and join in slamming those no-good Seattle area LBSers. Tell him how they're all a bunch of fat weenies who've probably never even ridden a bike before and would fall off if they tried. Their coffee sucks and they're all lazy bums. A bunch of contemptible, know-nothing slobs.
Death to the bastards! Drive them into the sea.
Slam 'em!