Originally Posted by
John Forester
None of the pictures of typical Dutch commuting cycling shows speeds similar to these. None of the pictures of typical Dutch commuting shows a traffic situation in which such speeds would be possible.
You really, really, really, really, really, really, should travel to the NL some day.
You would be amazed at the speed of a 65 year old Oma on her grocery-getter. And the speedy pelotons of teens rattling down the bike paths to school. Of course, you may choose to hide from all this, but doing so saps your credibility.