I have 2 of the selle italia you mentioned and love them for centuries. For shorter rides or club rides, I ride the selle itallia slr superflow...both the saddles in 145
BUT all of these saddles take getting use to. I dont care what you ride, if you think theres instant comfort on 4-6 hours in the saddle, your mistaken in my opinion. If I come off the bike for a week or more, I always, and I mean always hurt after my first long ride....over the next week, but but gets use to the saddle again and then not so much pain, but its never perfect.