ANYWAY....... lets get back on topic. When choosing my frame (upgrading from a SS cross bike), The Double cross, Cross Check, and C'mute were all on my list. I had access to Cross Check and C'mute in my size and rode both of them and although I dreamed of a disc brake double cross as my ideal commuter/ Light tourer, I chose the C'mute for the longest headtube out of the bunch and price that I wouldnt mind chaining it to things when I wanted to head into the city.