Yeah, I just read that... I'm not a rack guy, though, so that isn't a big consideration... and I want to "just flat out rip" on a Karate Monkey... LOL! Come on, you gotta' love the name! And I'll be a hero with my kids! The last steel bike I owned was a De Rosa in the early 90's--that was a great bike with fantastic "feel," but it may just be nostalgia... In any event, I'm on Ti and Carbon now, was on Aluminum, and am looking forward to a dedicated steel commuter.