Okay, been tweaking the saddle for more than a month now.

- Lacing the saddle improved, but not enough.
- Tilt. Up and I get too much pressure. Down I slide forward. Flat: Both at the same time.
- Shape is like I'd want to sit on my perineum....
- The more I tighten (with the nose screw) the saddle the better it gets. But there obviously are limits, and I'm about to run out of screw in 1cm... And extreme tension makes a kind of bulge in the middle?
- That Flyer truly is sit bone heaven though.
- I can only find ONE position, no moving around on the Brooks saddles?
- Endlessly slipping forward killed my wrists

Posture: I have my bars 2cm lower than saddle (going from riser to trekking bars) (don't like the bars. Will go to flat bars with Ergon GP5 and inboard Spinaci bar ends). Will raise them a little, and buy a Ritchey adjustable stem, to be able to adjust them to level or slightly higher. For road touring long distance with some bad roads/gravel involved. Revived another bike that has a pretty close resulting geometry but bars higher and saddle further back (can't put the Flyer back more), and found I way preferred it.

I could though try a Brooks Swift with much better chance. It was barely broken in (seen a few hundred miles at most) but I didn't found it that hard? (way harder than the worn-out Flyer sure, but I liked it.). This time, properly positioning the saddle avoided any chaffing. I felt some sit bones "discomfort", but no real pain (while on my Italia, it actually is pain). But I still had a little bit of perineum pressure. It still is a little hammocky.

How do the Team Pro and Swift compare? I find I'd want the flattest, least hammocky saddle.
Will, in the course of a 5000km tour rain or (and) shine, a Brooks Swift develop more sag?
Or maybe do you think leather saddles just are not the right shape for me?
Are there Brooks saddles that would allow me to have several butt positions? Even the Swift didn't seem that great in this regard - you could shift around a little, but not too much.

I fear Seeker333 was right and technically accurate. Which means I have to hunt for a new saddle, one month before leaving...

Could you recommend modern saddles that would rely on flex like a brooks and not padding, but offer a flat shape? Italias are meant to flex, but I'd like more flexy. Do carbon shells flex more than "plastic" shells? Any opinion on (excessively pricey) Ergon saddles?

Thank you,
Nicolas