I am in the boonies now so I have to buy Starbucks at the small local store and it is preground as drip. Real bummer When I lived in Monterey I could get a 5 or 10 pound bag of Espresso beans at SmartNFinal dirt cheap made by Nestles. Shipping kills me if I order on line here{ unless you'all know of a good place } and I don't wander to the big towns often. So I buy a bag of French roast and a bag of Espresso, mix them, and brew them normally because of the grind then mix in the water. ( Sorry I did not clarify the previous reference to just Espresso although I used to drink it that way and brewed in a proper machine when I could get better stuff ).