Thanks for the replies. I have a cycling friend who has the new 810 and he set it up for me to live track his ride home today from about 75 miles. About 2 hrs into his ride, 30 or so miles, my pc got the message, "no signal no service". Don't know what happened. It had been froze for a couple hrs and I could only think of bad things for him so I worried more than if I had not been tracking.