Originally Posted by
Bekologist
What does it matter pedestrian advocacy groups are tirelessly working to improve equity and pedestrian access/safety.
??? That some pedestrians have complaints about
something doesn't mean those complaints are relevant to
this discussion.
If you want cyclists to be "safe" like pedestrians, you should be arguing that they keep to the sidewalk.
Originally Posted by
Bekologist
No, silly. These advocacy groups aren't arguing that pedestrians should walk in the middle of highways. You are just throwing irrelevant crap into this thread.
Originally Posted by
Bekologist
Originally Posted by
njkayaker
(I'd like to see where pedestrians are complaining about not being able to walk in the middle of the road as "traffic".)
exactly. that's the ludicrous premise of the vehikular cycling dogmatists. it's as if pedestrians were lobbying long and hard to get rid of sidewalks, overpasses, and vulnerable user laws to go back to the good old days of pedestrians on equal footing as motorists.
Here, you sort-of half get what I was saying. The argument that bicyclists "own" the roads because of the "good roads" initiative is a
weak argument. That's is a "precedent" argument, and using it means that pedestrians and horse riders would have a better claim to "owning" the roads than bicyclists do.