Originally Posted by
seeker333
It's not long if you set your handlebar about even with the saddle, or even higher - that's merely your perception. The reality of a finished bike is different from a frame geometry table, which is what I attempted to explain in #9.
The fact that the (average) LHT ETT is 4mm longer than the Soma Saga ETT is insignificant when you have the capability of shortening reach by 30-60mm with stem choice and bar height.
I am aware of that, once again. I am only pointing out that it is very easy to get your bars upright on the LHT. Mine were above the saddle, now they are even. I'm not sure why you are arguing with me when we are saying essentially the same thing.