Originally Posted by
Shp4man
I can't bring myself to use those quick link things that come with new chains. Not that they're bad, it just seems wrong not to press out the pin with a chainbreaker and do it the old fashioned, PIA way.

I understand, but I don't like paying $3.00 for a new pin every time I take a Shimano chain apart. I can tell you from experience that being cheap and using the old pin in not a good idea: broken derailleur hanger, trashed derailleur, and a new chain!