Originally Posted by rumrunn6

re: "old quill pedals with toe clips and straps"

ah, I did not know that. so how long ago were those phased out? like 40 years ago? since they're gone, why are we still referring to any others as - non-them. they're gone, forget them. new names for new stuff, I say. let's call the new new stuff cleats, not clipless. after all, we don't call cars horseless carriages anymore

re: "it's called a strike when the ball isn't struck"

that is some good stuff right there