Originally Posted by
Bacciagalupe
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And again, without a pedal-based power meter, there is no way to know what is actually happening when you're pulling up. You could be exerting a very small amount of force and feel like you are tugging on the pedals. Or, you could just not be noticing how you're exerting negative force at the bottom of the pedal stroke and going to zero or a very small positive at the 12:00 position. Without objective measurement, you just don't know.
Of course you can. Your body is a sensor, if you care to pay attention. What ever would we do without advanced technology!

We wouldn't know anything!!
And while I agree that I haven't seen specific data on this: ...
And... what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I think we are done here. You don't get to throw around data like it's Christmas then claim a conclusion built on an unsupported extrapolation.
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