Originally Posted by richpool

Again im really not trying to argue here. Im just not sure if im communicating my point clearly.

To your first point. Yes it is advertising, but your product has to be good enough to be raced. Also their racers are doing pretty well in some pretty big races.

To the second point, I dont think their lower end line of bikes are aimed to "experienced riders". I think they are aimed at people that want to cruise and have a bike that looks good at the same time. Its sort of a gate way drug to cycling. On the other end I would ride their premium bikes. I think those are more aimed at "experienced riders"

Im glad this thread is staying relatively civil. Again, im not talking crap on either company. Im also not trying to be a dick to anyone. Just saying what I think. Hope you all understand that.