This thread is a pathetic... a bunch of whiners who are just itching to find something to complain about.

Quintana was a virtual unknown to casual fans as of 2 weeks ago, and now some of you are using him as THE benchmark for climbing ability. Faster riders are dopers and slower riders are clean, right? It's so simple.

We got a preview of Froome last year. His current performance is EXACTLY what we expected down to the last detail, including coming just behind Tony Martin in the iTT (Olympics, anyone?). I don't recall ANYBODY being this adamant about Froome being a doper during last year's tour. Congratulations to all of you who have demonstrated to be nothing short of hindsight GENIUSES.