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Old 07-18-13 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by garciawork
I have to disagree there. The CF bikes I have ridden were a Tarmac SL3 (quite stiff) and a Niner Air 9 carbon (also quite stiff), and both felt dead. I understand the relationship springyness has to "feeling alive", but I don't think carbon can really be "springy". My understanding was that a main reason for the vibration dampening was that carbon DOESN'T spring back as quick, meaning it won't be springy, hence the frames feeling "dead" to me.
That's my point. The CF frames you've ridden are quite stiff. It is that stiffness that makes them feel "dead" compared to more flexible Ti frames. You can design CF to spring and flex back if you want.
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