I've been seriously considering an Ogre for my next frameset. The bike I rode for most of 18 years has very similar geometry to the Ogre but I wanted to experiment with more road-oriented geometry so I bought a Handsome Devil frameset. It's a really nice bike but I'm starting to think I actually prefer a more MTB geometry. I put my old bike back together and will ride it some and if that is the case, I will seriously consider buying an Ogre. I want the longer wheelbase of the Ogre as well as the drivetrain/brake versatility and especially the ability to run Schwalbe Big Apples.