Originally Posted by
wphamilton
Ah, but I don't have to "get over it" - not as long as I do still have these liberties. Those who would take them away need to get over it, or else prepare for a fight.
I'm not sure what you really mean by "you can't expect to be" as "free as you'd like to believe". Expect and believe are almost synonymous in your context, so to me the sentence is an illogical absurdity. Therefore you must have meant something else?
Regarding my rights and liberties (no need to put them in quotes - they are very real and literal), infringing on someone else's: in the first place that came out of left field, and in the second place it's also completely untrue. Competing rights and liberties are a fact of life, a fact of law, and it doesn't mean that one person or another is out of line.
And I'm supposed to care that you think my thoughts are illogical and absurd? And you are...?
Not from left field, and not completely untrue. Further, in any competition, someone wins and someone loses. The one who loses either modifies his/her exercise of rights/liberties, or IS OUT OF LINE. Currently, there is a movement to establish a 'national religion', despite it being blatantly unconstitutional. During the time between its possible passage and inevitable invalidation by SCOTUS, do you believe that forcing a religious belief on you would not be a violation of your liberties? But it would be LEGAL! So much for competing rights and liberties -- it's an evolution of society, not a constant.
Societies were formed for quite simple reasons, which I shouldn't have to explain; BUT, in order to live peaceably in a group of rugged individualists, compromises must be made, and compromise means "give a little, get a little." Limits on liberties.
Hold your hand one inch on front of your nose; that's where MY rights and liberties stop, as would yours if I held my hand up. That's a truth that's been taught for more years than I've been breathing.
Now, I know I won't convince you of a damned thing, just as you won't convince me; so let's just agree to disagree, and go on about our lives. I'm already bored with this.