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Old 07-21-13 | 09:34 AM
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Bikes: 1984 Cannodale full touring bike, Giant full carbon dura ace, Belinsky frame Tandem

Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
If you find a bike you like the ride of, it's a good bike. It won't necessarily be a good bike just because it's titanium. I absolutely love my Merlin - it's one of the nicest bikes I've ever ridden. I had a litespeed built Look which I didn't like at all...I'm also not that in love with my Titanio. My personal view on ti, which many disagree with, is I'd stick to the big names. I think the quality of ti bikes varies more than other materials...both in the origin of the titanium and the quality of the build. I'd stick to Merlin, IF, Moots, Spectrum, Seven, etc. Another factor to consider is that many ti frames aren't made by the company that decals them, they're contracted to other ti producers (like Sandvik and Litespeed). I'd want to know who built it.

There are plenty of people making lovely steel bikes like you describe as well...the OS steels used today can be quite stiff. Stainless is corrosion resistant, but costs a lot and is at least as difficult to work with as ti...likely more. Another benefit of most steels (not air hardened steel) is that the rear can be cold set to accommodate new standards. The bottom line is that any good builder can make you a great bike - it just depends on what you want. If given an unlimited budget, I'd want a ti Spectrum sports tourer because I really think Kellogg is a master at design.
i agree with the design and how is put together.

Loved my former 1986 Bridgestone in steel (its now my son commuter)! My custom made tandem Belinsky is superb tandem in steel. The power transfer I get from my 1983 Cannondale is the best of all. The acceleration and comfort from my Carbon 2007 Scot is pretty good.

I was thinking, design, tires and drive train being the same, what material bike would combine all the properties I like from my favorite bikes? I don't know enough to know if a steel bike needs to be geometrically different to a Ti bike for them to be comparable in comfort and stiffness.

I see Belinsky makes TI sport tourers. Judging by my tandem, that would be a possibility. Rivendale was Bridgestone at one time, so that would be an option for a more economically steel bike. I will forgo aluminum for its jarring road effect and the carbon for its lack of customization and the mental anguish (real or not) that comes in thinking that with the next fall, or rock, or Baba with his rust bucket bike on the train commute is going to chip and maybe compromise the structure integrity of your carbon frame. Double O
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