Originally Posted by contango

Limits on liberties to protect the fabric of society are one thing. Where things like the "national religion" you mention are concerned the state is now effectively trying to define who I am for me. I can choose for myself who and indeed whether I wish to worship because as long as I don't go about my evangelistic efforts using force or violence it makes no difference to anyone else whether I worship God, Allah, Krishna or the lump of cheese I found at the back of the fridge.



Restrictions on my "liberty" to punch you in the nose are reasonable. Restrictions on my liberty to think a certain way, to go about my business peacefully uninterrupted by agents of the state, are not.



Before anyone agrees to disagree maybe we're not disagreeing at all. If you're bored of it already you can always stop posting.