Posting from phone post tweak ride.
Moved seat a degree or so back tilt. A tiny move but fixed my creep forward issue I think.
Moved seat forward as well. I would be dead center on a zero offset post. I may switch. This feels better. I also raised the seat a cm after, also feels right.
I also took a spacer out, dropped the bars, and rotated the bars back a bit. Now the hoods feel much better and I don't think the stem is as long a reach now.
I think dropping the bars actually helped with the seating position a bit too.
Funny how small things make all the diff.
Now to leave this alone for better evaluation.