yea guys, i was going to post that advice. As much as we all want some give in our pedals to save our joints and make disengaging easier, this sucks alot too. I'm tightening mine down and will start to be more conscious of the fact that they are attatched as such.

oh, and in cycling custom, my dad graciously waited for me to catch up...and after the bee sting i promptly kicked his arse up the final climb...the asphalt and insects may have won the battles, but i won the war

TK