Reading this thread I have no motivation whatsoever to take my bikes to the LBS now... and this is out of line with what's been said, but I never secure my wheels with the QR or nut... never an issue with removal either. I use a fairly large vise on a very heavy and bolted down work bench, I always maneuver the freewheel tool so the prongs fit cleanly into the freewheel and the rest is held by the vice, I do make sure when turning the wheel left though that it never comes up on any side.. not very hard just apply slight downward pressure while turning. (Never broken a freewheel, or puller yet)