^ I saw the other posts you had on Ti vs carbon thread. Looks like paduano is what you are looking at. From what I understabd, they only offer custom builds, nothing standard about their frame. If they don't want your stack and reach measurement, then what do they need? If they simply dismiss stack and reach as a more effective way of describing a frame geo, then I think you need to think about if they are the right t frame builder for you.