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Old 08-11-13 | 09:04 AM
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Avispa
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Bikes: Ax Lighntess Vial EVO D (+ Paduano Fidia)

Nose of saddle to to steer tip (center bolt) is 443mm, i have been changing this measurement. But this feels good. No, i think i'd like a more shallow drop.
perhaps 80-85mm. I've been put on all from 550 to 570mm TT bikes, as platform from Guru making a pre-calculated fit, i was on a 561mm/ reach 385mm.

Foil 54:
[TABLE="width: 590"]
[TR]
[TH="class: top nobg"][/TH]
[TH="class: top col-odd noborderbottom, colspan: 2"]XXS/47[/TH]
[TH="class: top col-odd noborderbottom, colspan: 2"]XS/49[/TH]
[TH="class: top col-odd noborderbottom, colspan: 2"]S/52[/TH]
[TH="class: top col-odd noborderbottom, colspan: 2"]M/54[/TH]
[TH="class: top col-odd noborderbottom, colspan: 2"]L/56[/TH]
[TH="class: top col-odd noborderbottom, colspan: 2"]XL/58[/TH]
[TH="class: top col-odd noborderbottom, colspan: 2"]XXL/61[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: letter"]A[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]head tube angle[/TH]
[TD="colspan: 2"]70.5°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]71.0°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]72.0°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]73.0°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]73.0°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]73.3°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]73.3°[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: horizontal-alt"]
[TH="class: letter"]B[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]headtube length[/TH]
[TD]100 mm[/TD]
[TD]3.9 inches[/TD]
[TD]105 mm[/TD]
[TD]4.1 inches[/TD]
[TD]120 mm[/TD]
[TD]4.7 inches
[/TD]
[TD]140 mm[/TD]
[TD]5.5 inches[/TD]
[TD]160 mm[/TD]
[TD]6.3 inches[/TD]
[TD]180 mm[/TD]
[TD]7.1 inches[/TD]
[TD]200 mm[/TD]
[TD]7.9 inches[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: letter"]C[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]toptube length horizontal[/TH]
[TD]510 mm[/TD]
[TD]20.1 inches[/TD]
[TD]520 mm[/TD]
[TD]20.5 inches[/TD]
[TD]535 mm[/TD]
[TD]21.1 inches
[/TD]
[TD]550 mm
[/TD]
[TD]21.7 inches[/TD]
[TD]565 mm[/TD]
[TD]22.2 inches[/TD]
[TD]580 mm[/TD]
[TD]22.8 inches[/TD]
[TD]595 mm[/TD]
[TD]23.4 inches[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: horizontal-alt"]
[TH="class: letter"]E[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]seat tube angle[/TH]
[TD="colspan: 2"]74.5°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]74.5°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]74.0°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]73.3°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]73.3°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]73.0°[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]72.5°[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: letter"]G[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]bb center to toptube center[/TH]
[TD]410 mm[/TD]
[TD]16.1 inches[/TD]
[TD]430 mm[/TD]
[TD]16.9 inches[/TD]
[TD]460 mm[/TD]
[TD]18.1 inches[/TD]
[TD]480 mm
[/TD]
[TD]18.9 inches
[/TD]
[TD]500 mm[/TD]
[TD]19.7 inches[/TD]
[TD]520 mm[/TD]
[TD]20.5 inches[/TD]
[TD]550 mm[/TD]
[TD]21.7 inches[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: horizontal-alt"]
[TH="class: letter"]H[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]chainstay length[/TH]
[TD]405 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.9 inches[/TD]
[TD]405 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.9 inches[/TD]
[TD]405 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.9 inches[/TD]
[TD]405 mm
[/TD]
[TD]15.9 inches[/TD]
[TD]405 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.9 inches[/TD]
[TD]405 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.9 inches[/TD]
[TD]405 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.9 inches[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: letter"]I[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]bb offset[/TH]
[TD]-67 mm[/TD]
[TD]-2.6 inches[/TD]
[TD]-67 mm[/TD]
[TD]-2.6 inches[/TD]
[TD]-67 mm[/TD]
[TD]-2.6 inches[/TD]
[TD]-67 mm
[/TD]
[TD]-2.6 inches[/TD]
[TD]-67 mm[/TD]
[TD]-2.6 inches[/TD]
[TD]-67 mm[/TD]
[TD]-2.6 inches[/TD]
[TD]-67 mm[/TD]
[TD]-2.6 inches[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: horizontal-alt"]
[TH="class: letter"]J[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]standover height[/TH]
[TD]717 mm[/TD]
[TD]28.2 inches[/TD]
[TD]731 mm[/TD]
[TD]28.8 inches[/TD]
[TD]755 mm[/TD]
[TD]29.7 inches[/TD]
[TD]775 mm
[/TD]
[TD]30.5 inches[/TD]
[TD]794 mm[/TD]
[TD]31.3 inches[/TD]
[TD]814 mm[/TD]
[TD]32.0 inches[/TD]
[TD]838 mm[/TD]
[TD]33.0 inches[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: letter"][/TH]
[TH="class: label"]wheelbase[/TH]
[TD]972 mm[/TD]
[TD]38.3 inches[/TD]
[TD]978 mm[/TD]
[TD]38.5 inches[/TD]
[TD]980 mm[/TD]
[TD]38.6 inches[/TD]
[TD]985 mm
[/TD]
[TD]38.5 inches[/TD]
[TD]994 mm[/TD]
[TD]39.1 inches[/TD]
[TD]1003 mm[/TD]
[TD]39.5 inches[/TD]
[TD]1012 mm[/TD]
[TD]39.8 inches[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: horizontal-alt"]
[TH="class: letter"]K[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]reach[/TH]
[TD]371 mm[/TD]
[TD]14.6 inches[/TD]
[TD]379 mm[/TD]
[TD]14.9 inches[/TD]
[TD]384 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.1 inches[/TD]
[TD]385 mm
[/TD]
[TD]15.2 inches[/TD]
[TD]394 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.5 inches[/TD]
[TD]400 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.7 inches[/TD]
[TD]403 mm[/TD]
[TD]15.9 inches[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: letter"]L[/TH]
[TH="class: label"]stack[/TH]
[TD]503 mm[/TD]
[TD]19.8 inches[/TD]
[TD]509 mm[/TD]
[TD]20.0 inches[/TD]
[TD]527 mm[/TD]
[TD]20.7 inches[/TD]
[TD]549 mm
[/TD]
[TD]21.6 inches[/TD]
[TD]569 mm[/TD]
[TD]22.4 inches[/TD]
[TD]589 mm[/TD]
[TD]23.2 inches[/TD]
[TD]608 mm[/TD]
[TD]23.9 inches[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: horizontal-alt"]
[TH="class: letter"][/TH]
[TH="class: label"]stem length[/TH]
[TD="colspan: 2"]90 mm[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]100 mm[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]110 mm[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]110 mm[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]110 mm[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]120 mm[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]130 mm[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

S5:

Size 48 51 54 56 58 61
Wheel Size 700c 700c 700c 700c 700c 700c
Head Tube Angle 70.5° 72.2° 73.1° 73.5° 73.5° 73.5°
BB Drop 68 68 68 68 68 68
Head Tube Length 108 128 148 173 199 225
Front Centre 575 577 575 587 604 620
Rear Centre 405 405 405 405 405 405
Stand Over Height 693 723 753 784 815 846
Stack 505 530 555 580 605 630
Reach 360 369 378 387 396 405
Fork Offset 53 53 43 43 43 43
Seat Tube Angle 73.0o 73.0o 73.0o 73.0o 73.0o 73.0o
Top Tube 516 531 548 564 581 597

I made the Foil of my size RED and the larger sized 56 of S5 RED.
Yes, you are very correct. I would like to need no spacers and using only stem angle if i find height issues.
I don't like dim results, i'd like them to be kind of static and precise. I don't know why, but i find it disturbing if they are shady.
As do i when i don't really understand how to tell sizing of a frame, or my positioning at it.

What also annoys me, is a doubt i feel. It is tough to get inseam correct one my own, applying correct amount of pressure.
Also, when starting to ride i can sit a bit lower, not to extend knee to much. When i've been doing 20kilometers i can ride and prefer, a bit higher.
I noted knee over axle is approximated for me. Risk is the lower leg (below knee) is getting too much forward extending this angle a bit too much.
Also more specific i notice, either i find comfortable position on top of bar, or in the bends. This is a bit tricky to dial. I have to remind myself to relax in shoulders, neck etc.
More, i am from Sweden. I appreciate the help, i really do.

Last edited by Avispa; 08-11-13 at 09:20 AM.
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