@ Gallo

Do you ride much in traffic on low speed roadways (25mph or less speed limit), especially in-town, square grid, stop and go traffic? Have you tried riding in traffic like that by "taking the lane" and riding a bicycle in traffic just like you would ride a motorcycle?

Just wondering about your viewing point from which you base your opinion. For me I know that such traffic conditions is where I find FRAP the most useless and "take the lane" VC type riding the most useful so just wondering if you have tried that combination out (combination of that kind of traffic conditions with that style of riding).

Not flaming you, just genuinely curious about the experience base of your stated opinion.