Hi,

Well the last one went down so well .....
(Centre of crank to seat height is near clothing inside leg).

Get the pedals level and hover over your bike. Move your body
so there is no pressure on your hands. Your butt will be where
your saddle should be be for your handlebar position.

Turns out on my folder, (the seat is all the way back and right
height), that my hands are around the end of the bar ends
to achieve this, I'd already ascertained its the fastest position.

rgds, sreten.

Given the above my road bike fits very well. My folder could
do with further forward bars but not easy to do at all.