Originally Posted by
surreal
I disagree. I've referred to several different sub-genres of cruisers; you have chosen to ignore those posts. Your belief that the term "beach cruisers" means more to younger cyclists may be true, but these are primarily negative connotations, and will not benefit a fledgling sub-forum.
I am not wrong when I tell you that an S&M Dirtbike 24 is a cruiser, but not a Beach cruiser (BMX cruiser)
I am not wrong when I tell you that a custom chop-n-drop or stretched bike is a cruiser, but is not a Beach Cruiser (it's a chopper)
I am not wrong when I tell you that a Huffy Rail is a cruiser, but not a beach cruiser (it's a musclebike.)
I am not wrong when I tell you that a Worksman INB is a cruiser, but it's not a beach cruiser. (It's an industrial bike.)
I am not wrong when I tell you that a CCM Flyte is a cruiser, but it's not a beach cruiser. (It's just awesome.)
I am not wrong when I tell you that a Schwinn Cycletruck is a cruiser, but it's not a beach cruiser. (It's a cargo bike, with a decidedly cruiser flair.)
I am not wrong when I tell you that a Cook Bros Racing 26" is a cruiser, but not a beach cruiser. (It's a 26" BMX cruiser, of the SoCal variant sometimes referred to as a "strandie", which is kind of like the place where beach cruisers and BMX cruisers intersect.)
I am not wrong when I tell you that when some guy takes a cruiser frame, puts a negative-rise stem on it, flips the bars, adds a springer fork, and acts really proud of it online, he's built a cruiser, but not a beach cruiser. (It's a fake boardtrack bike).
I could go on, but why? You've got your mind made up, and you're not wrong, you're just limited. The term "beach cruiser", while popular with ppl who know little or nothing about bikes in general, holds little appeal to the cycling enthusiast, even those of us who actually dig cruisers. Even to those of us who dig beach cruisers! Because, frankly, that's a very limited sub-section of what cruisers have to offer.
If an online discussion forum is going to survive, it will need topics broad enough to discuss.
To put it more simply for you: when something is too small, it makes sense to make it bigger. "Beach Cruisers" is a small topic, and this forum gets small amounts of traffic. Why not broaden the topic, and enlarge the appeal?
See and now just now you're finally making sense, other then the insults part but that's okay I have a fairly thick hide. You're right, a bmx cruiser is a bmx cruiser, they also go in the bmx sub forum.
Typcially chopped and stretched bikes are how you say alternative bikes.. we have a forum for that to.
Huffy Rail a muscle bike eh? Well if you have muscle bikes why the heck aren't you posting them in C&V for us to ohhh and ahhhhh on?
Industrial bike eh? Utility forum...
Last I checked CCM's belonged in C&V don't they?
Cargo bikes in my mind also slide into utility btw.
So that leaves us with the strandie, which I'm not familar with but by the sounds of it the first one on your list that doesn't have a forum home if we play by how you want to define the "beach cruiser" "cruiser" forum thing. Never heard of a boardtrack bike, I'll definitely be looking that one up though even though I suspect I know the style.
And if you know all this stuff, why aren't you writing a thread up on the different types and styles and what differentiates them eh? Calling me limited because I disagree with you though... I'm sure I could berate you on a few subjects too but that doesn't mean I'm going to. I'm trying to make it so this forum can get all the attention it can get.. you might note I'm the author of the show me your cruiser thread because I was stoked this forum finally came into being.