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Old 08-26-13 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo1889
Personally I'm waiting until the sun-glasses cameras get to the resolution and price point where I can get one good enough to usually catch license plate numbers for not much more then $100-USD. I think it will still be a few more years.

As to cyclists not needing one, I agree that it isn't absolutely needed I'm not currently running a camera. But there are times where it would have been nice to record evidence. As to those who view cycling not as needful transportation but rather a hobby or form of leisure pleasure like croquet they aren't really in a position to make comment in the first place about those of us who have been use the roadways to travel fully within the rules of the road and our legal rights and have been deliberately and knowingly subjected to felony ADW attacks by motorists and have had the cops tell us that they can't do anything because there is no proof being desirous of next time having a recording instrument to get that proof or at the very least serve as a "black box" if we should be killed in such an attack. I'm not quite to that point yet myself because such incidents although they have been perpetrated against me have been rare enough that I'm not quite ready to start pro-actively running a camera all the time, but I have absolutely no problem with those who of their own free will choice choose to do so. In fact I'm strongly suspicious that those making such nasty comments about others exercising their free will and at their own cost installing "dash cams" in any vehicle might be afraid of evidence of their own mis-behavior being recorded and them not being able to get away with things they are doing. The whole guilty conscience thing being the root of campaigning against the increasing use of recorded records by private individuals in public places. When the guy/gal you attack might have a camera recording you in the act its a lot harder to get away with it with a "his word against mine" defense. And if it becomes common enough it can serve as a significant deterrent to substantial mis-behavior against others since you never know who is running a recorder.

I fully understand the potential abuses of government or even private corporate mass surveillance, but private individuals installing dash cams and/or black box recorders in their vehicles at their own personal cost with non-networked records I hardly see as any threat to anyone but perps. and criminals.
This is pretty close to my view on the matter too. I originally wanted to get a camera to record evidence of people putting me in danger by passing too close etc.., but figured my lack of faith in the US justice system would just be reinforced if I ever did try and get the police to enforce the existing three feet to pass laws here in Illinois. I never did get one, and probably never will at this rate.

One thing I have done a few times since I first considered getting a video camera is stop and take pictures using my cell phone. That really gets peoples attention (especially when I did this while walking in a marked crosswalk behind a large brightly colored traffic sign stating states law requires traffic to stop for pedestrians in the crosswalk).
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