Old 09-02-13, 05:16 PM
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bshanteau
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Conversely, most bicyclists are screwed if much attention is paid to self described "bicycle traffic engineers" who are also ardent, if not strident, Vehicular Cycling advocates.
It is sad when so-called "bicycle advocates" stoop to ad hominem attacks to try to discredit another's point of view. As Wikipedia says,

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument. Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as an informal fallacy, more precisely an irrelevance.
I don't attempt to deny your right to ride at the edge or on a sidewalk or on a bike path if you wish, but you want to deny my right to ride on the road as the driver of a vehicle.

In every state of the Union, bicyclists have all the rights and duties of drivers of vehicles. It is you who is the ardent, if not strident denier of those rights for all bicyclists who wish to exercise them.
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