[MENTION=94092]flargle[/MENTION] - thanks for the great info. That would be my hope - a relatively fast swap since in a summer week I might easily do both a cross and a road ride. [MENTION=197614]fietsbob[/MENTION] - I had steered away from discs, even though all the cross bikes are going there, because I was worried I wouldn't be legal in any road race. But when I think about it, the only road races/tris that I race tend to be local races, so it likely doesn't matter. AND, rumor has it road bikes are heading that way anyway (and UCI may soon sanction). I wonder how much of a "penalty" (speedwise) one would take for riding road with discs? Seems like a disc would be a lot easier to feather in the peleton than a canti. I plan to use my current cross bike (it's just a Jake) as my commuter, but I do worry about stopping in the snow/sleet/nastiness that I live in from November-May. So, perhaps just going disk *is* the answer. In general, I find my canti's terrifying either while racing, riding with friends and avoiding deer and potholes, and commuting. [MENTION=47570]Barrettscv[/MENTION] - the plan would be to get a wheelset for cross and one for road, with an appropriately entry- to mid-level set of rims and tires for each effort (currently, my rims on both my cross and road bike are pretty low-brow, I ride RacingRalphs on cross, and whatever cheap tire is on my road bike). But the goal is certainly not to be elite. Honestly, I almost never race road. I race in triathlons, so when I win the lottery, I hope to buy a tri bike (yes, gasp, I do not follow the rules that riding should never be preceded by a swim or followed by a run). But for now, I do train on road and mainly want some hope of not getting immediately dropped. And I am planning some races that require you stay in the peleton to survive. So, my goals are something like a) bike a lot! b) have fun! c) podium now and then in cross; d) keep up(ish) on road rides; e) have a bike to ride in triathlons whereby I can not suffer horribly until I can afford my N+1 tri bike... I'll add that I think one reason I was faster on that last road ride on the carbon cross bike was because I live in a state that is the love child of Kentucky and Alaska, and the roads can be downright atrocious and any loop almost always requires a bit of dirt. [MENTION=333934]wheelinthai[/MENTION] - I sat on a Roubaix last time at the LBS and it seemed sweet. I didn't ask at the time, but I'm not sure that could handle a real cross race!? Does it take wider tires? [MENTION=314075]TommyBing[/MENTION] - That looks about perfect. I didn't get what you meant about disc wheels - but without the discs? I like the idea of starting with cantis and then upgrading eventually to disc. Is that a 2012?

I appreciate everyone's input...