sometimes a train wreck, sometimes the only reasonable place in the morass of the 41. In reality, most of the regulars here (including a lot of moderators) are just active cyclists, who have run out of things to say on the endless repetition of topics in the 41 (what kind of tire, is my bike worth it, CAAD x's rule etc) and just like the company of other people who share the same obsessive love of cycling (and other forms of exercise)