I now have 2 short rides in, maybe 15 miles total, on one of those tensioned leather saddles you speak of. I was VERY pleasantly surprised, at how comfortable they really are. I truly expected to hate it, but I'd heard enough people saying they liked them, that I pretty much had to try it, eventually. Plus this one's not even close to being broken in, so there's still improvement, probably. Hey, I have an '81 Nishiki Comp II frame & fork (& a few parts, pics in the database thread), that "might" become a regular, if it builds well. It's still new to me, so needs about everything, including removing an old fixed BB cup, LOL. I'm a bit worried though, what I first thought was red, looks kinda pink-ish, in my basement. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just not a pink bike guy.